Fireworking Safety, the Law, and You

Written by Harry Gilliam

Topics: How to Make Fireworks

By Ned Gorski

I’ve covered many safety issues involved in making fireworks in my introductory essay to Kyle Kelley’s The Pyrotechnist Survival Guide, Bill Ofca’s Fireworks Safety Manual, and Dr. Takeo Shimizu’s treatise on Preventing Accident.

Much physical suffering on our part and that of our loved ones can be avoided if we heed the advice in those pages. I like to go back and review them regularly to see how well my operations are conforming to those recommendations.

But there is another very significant kind of pain and suffering we and our families may have to endure unless we pay attention to a different set of precautions as we embark on this new fireworking hobby.

I’m going to go over what it takes to make fireworks legally, and I’ll even show you how to make a magazine inexpensively to use for legal storage of the fireworks you make.

Federal, State, and Local Laws Pertaining to Hobbyist Fireworks Manufacture

The US Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) is charged with regulating explosives activities in the United States. Their regulations can be found in ATF Federal Explosives Law and Regulations, commonly called the Orange Book because of its orange cover.

Here is a link to a free online, PDF version of the Orange Book:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf

The book can be obtained from the BATFE directly, also, and from Skylighter.


BATFE’s “Orange Book”

Individual states either defer to Federal explosives regulations or develop their own explosives laws.

Local governments such as counties, cities, and townships can adopt their own sets of laws governing explosives and their manufacture.

You might be saying right about now, “What am I getting myself into?”

The simple answer is that you’ve gotten yourself into a serious hobby and art form, one which can cause personal injury and property damage, and one in which the government takes an interest, unlike knitting or stamp-collecting.

“Well, the heck with them. I don’t care about their stupid laws,” you might reply.

Well, guess what. The various governments don’t care whether you and I consider the laws stupid. They care about the laws and they care about whether or not we are complying with them. You’d better believe it.

We could sit around for hours or even days, debating this law or that one, which one is just or unjust. But that won’t change the fact of the existence of both the law and the agency, which enforces it.

The question is not whether the law is just or not, or whether or not I agree with the law.

The question becomes a simple one: “Am I willing to suffer the consequences if I am caught breaking the law and prosecuted? Is my family willing to suffer those consequences along with me? Am I willing to ask them if they are willing to suffer those consequences.”

There have been many pyros who have been caught breaking the laws concerning the manufacture and storage of fireworks. They have suffered imprisonment, high attorney fees, exorbitant fines, broken marriages, and loss of property.

In the end a law is simple. “We the people declare this activity, done this way, to be illegal. If you are caught doing it you will suffer these consequences.”

A law states just that and only that. It simply states, such and such an action is illegal, and if you are caught doing it you may suffer this punishment.

So, the choice then becomes simple. “Am I willing to comply with the law, or break it and risk those consequences?”

And, there are several different ways to answer that question.

1) Yep, I’ll comply with the law and not take the risks involved in breaking it.

2) Nope, I’ll not comply with the law. I’m going to engage in this activity in an illegal manner, and I’m willing to risk those consequences. But, I’m not gonna tell my wife I’m taking that risk with our money and property, or give her the choice of whether or not she’s willing to take that risk.

3) Nope, I’ll not comply with the law, and I’m willing to risk those consequences, and I have discussed it with my wife and family and they are willing to back me up in this activity and risk those consequences, too.

But, comply or not, we need to take that action with an awareness of the consequences of our actions, and a willingness to face those consequences like “men”. (Most fireworkers are men, so I’m comfortable using that term. No disrespect to wimmen fireworkers, though.)

I said in my safety essay mentioned in the first paragraph above, “When we first get into this, we really don’t know how serious a pursuit it will become for us, do we? How much should we invest in tools and a workshop if it turns out to be only a passing curiosity? If we progress in the fireworks hobby, our investment in it and in the tools and facility used for it, progresses along with it. Our safety precautions usually end up tagging along a bit behind our activities. That is dangerous.”

Now, in that paragraph simply replace the word “safety” with the word “legal”, as in “our legal precautions usually end up tagging along a bit behind our activities.”

The danger in doing that is that we do indeed risk the sorts of “dangers” mentioned above: imprisonment, high attorney fees, exorbitant fines, broken marriages, and loss of property. As we make choices concerning our activities and whether or not they comply with those laws, it would be wise to become educated about the laws, the consequences of breaking them, and our responsibilities to ourselves and our loved ones.

What Does US Federal Law Say About Hobbyist Fireworking?

Fortunately, US Federal law is pretty straightforward and simple when it comes to hobbyist fireworking.

Once again, from the ATF Orange Book:

Page 64, Paragraph 37. “When is a manufacturer’s license required?”

Persons who manufacture explosives for their personal, non-business use are not required to have a manufacturer’s license. However, no person may ship, transport, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials unless such person holds a license or permit.”

Page 68, Paragraph 72. “Who must comply with the storage requirements?”

“…all persons who store explosive materials must store them in conformity with the provisions of Subpart K of the regulations…”

Pages 47-53, Subpart K – Storage

This section details storage which is in conformity with the regulations and which will satisfy the BATFE’s requirements.

Because no license is required by the BATFE, this storage might never be known about by them or inspected by them. But if a person is caught storing explosives without such compliant storage, the BATFE then has the right to prosecute that person. And, typically, they do.

These are the cases you hear about in the news if the Feds are prosecuting somebody: they were storing explosives illegally, or they caught the person transporting explosives without a license or permit.

This is another important point. While a person can make explosives for their own personal use, provided that they store them in a compliant manner, they may not transport them legally unless they have an ATF license or permit. And, that’s even across town to the test-shooting site. When traveling to PGI (Pyrotechnics Guild International) or local-club events, often transportation-coverage for members is supplied through the club license and/or permit.

But, man, if you decide to transport your homemade fireworks without a license or permit, and you get stopped and searched for whatever reason, or if you have an accident and the explosives are involved in some destruction, God Help You, because the law won’t.

By the way, the US DOT (Department of Transportation) only regulates “in-commerce” transportation, and does not concern itself with the above mentioned regulations concerning the BATFE’s requirements to only transport explosives under a license or permit. At least, that’s the philosophy they appear to have been operating under so far.

Note: It’s useful to mention that all of this is my best understanding of the current situation under the law. Things can change, and the laws are always up for re-evaluation. I am not a lawyer, just a hobbyist trying to be as informed as possible about the multitude of laws surrounding us, and the numerous “alphabet soup” agencies charged with enforcing those laws. If in doubt, consult an attorney. But remember that unless they are fireworks or explosives specialists, often they can only offer their “best opinion” for you. Quite often the law is simply not all that clear, and is left to the individual “authority on site” to render a personal interpretation of it.

Local and State Laws Covering Fireworks Manufacture

It is impossible for me to even try to address the myriad of local and state laws governing the manufacture of fireworks. Suffice it to say that the same sort of reasoning and responsibilities mentioned above with regard to federal laws, also pertain to state and local laws.

If you don’t research those laws and make informed choices regarding them, you might run afoul of a state or local Fire Marshal who simply does not have a sense of humor about all of this “hobbyist fireworking.”

BATFE Manufacturing Licenses

So, if the Feds do not require us to obtain a license to make explosives for our personal use, as long as the restrictions on storage and transportation mentioned above are complied with, “Why Get One?”

Well, that’s an interesting subject.

We’ve mentioned the BATFE, DOT, State and Local agencies, and now another of those “acronym named” agencies comes into play. The CPSC.

The Consumer Products Safety Commission seems hell-bent on putting hobbyist fireworking and pyrotechnics supply houses out of business. Despite the BATFE’s declaration that no license is required for such activities, the CPSC has repeatedly forced pyro chemical suppliers to not sell more than very limited quantities of certain chemicals and supplies to unlicensed individuals.

On top of that, even though there is a perfectly valid and available “Type 50 – Manufacturer of Fireworks” license available from the BATFE, the CPSC has told the pyro supply houses that only a “Type 20 – Manufacturer of High Explosives” license is acceptable for purchases of certain items.

Go figure. I personally don’t mind trying to get informed about the law and trying to abide by it, but man, sometimes “they” sure don’t make it easy.

So, many pyro-enthusiasts are biting-the-bullet and getting their BATFE Type 20 licenses. A background check is required, and the resulting “Letter of Clearance” must be obtained. Compliant storage, as mentioned above and described in the following section, and a simple approved work-site, such as a picnic table, are necessary.

A form must be filled out and a relatively small fee must be paid. There’s an interview, fingerprinting, and a security check. And that’s about it. You don’t have to “qualify,” be tested, nor have any particular skills or background. The BATFE is not our enemy, and if we are willing to work with them, they definitely don’t view us as their enemy.

The license covers us for materials purchases, for transportation issues, and for general peace-of-mind. I personally consider it to be a good investment, if local and state laws will allow a license to be obtained.

BATFE Compliant Storage

As mentioned already, Subpart K – Storage, in the Orange book details the BATFE’s requirements for storage, regardless of whether we have a license.

Requirements for regular inspection, by the owner, of magazines to ensure that they have not been tampered with, are detailed. Housekeeping, smoking, repair, lighting, and various other issues are also addressed in this section.

Note: Interestingly, the requirements for keeping “Records and Reports” which are detailed on page 37, pertain only to “licensees and permittees.” The questions and answers regarding the requirements for “Recordkeeping,” back on page 67-68, address only licensees and permittees, as well. So while there may not be specific requirements for recordkeeping concerning the stored explosives for a non-licensed hobbyist, it’s probably a good idea to keep a log of the weights of the explosives taken in or out, or at least put in, so that the maximum weight of 50 pounds is never exceeded. A regular inventory of such explosives and their weights could also easily answer any potential questions concerning the weights and types of explosives stored in the magazine.

In general, most hobbyists install some form of a Type 4 storage magazine to comply with these requirements. A Type 4 magazine is a permanent magazine in which “low explosives” (as defined on Page 48) may be stored.

Among common fireworks components and devices, the only things, which cannot be stored legally in a Type 4 magazine, are loose “flash powders” and “bulk salutes.” Bulk salutes are flash devices stored all in one container or box together. If salutes are going to be stored in a Type 4 magazine, they must be mixed in a box with some color shells or similar. Loose flash powder may not be stored in a Type 4, period.

Other than that, a Type 4 is the storage most of us need, even if we are getting a Type 20 license (Manufacturer of High Explosives). In order to comply with CPSC’s requirements, if we explain to ATF why we want that license, and declare that we will not store loose flash powder or bulk-salutes in our Type 4 magazine), then typically the inspectors will tell us that we’re good-to-go with a Type 4.

Just remember, any explosives we manufacture and store must be stored in such a compliant magazine, whether or not we get a license.

Page 51 of the Orange book details the various requirements for the construction of Outdoor and Indoor Type 4 magazines.

Much less expensive than magazines made for just that purpose, metal shipping containers are commonly used to make outdoor Type 4 magazines They can be relatively inexpensively modified to meet the BATFE’s requirements. Page 54 has a table of distances to determine how far an outdoor magazine must be situated from inhabited buildings, highways, railways, and other magazines.

Remember the ATF places limits on the total, maximum weight of explosive material that may be stored in each type of magazine. If one wishes to install/construct an outdoor Type 4 magazine in their area, it’s useful to consult with others in your area who have done so, and with the BATFE to see what their specific recommendations and requirements are.

Many hobbyists install “Indoor” Type 4 magazines to have BATFE compliant storage for their activities. The requirements for these magazines are spelled out on Page 51.

Indoor Type 4 magazines may store a maximum of 50 pounds of actual explosive materials (does not include the weight of the containers, etc.) The magazine must be “fire-resistant and theft resistant.” “No indoor magazine is to be located in a residence or dwelling.”

An indoor magazine must be in a separate structure—not in a residence or dwelling. It appears that there is no minimum distance it must be separated from the residence of the hobbyist. The separate structure may be a garage or shed near a residence, but it may not be attached to it.

“Indoor magazines are to be constructed of masonry, metal-covered wood, fabricated metal, or a combination of these materials. The walls and floors are to be constructed of, or covered with, a non-sparking material. The doors must be metal or solid wood covered with metal.”

Covering any exposed metal to make it non-sparking can be as simple as painting it with a high-quality paint/coating such as epoxy-appliance-paint or rubberized truck-bed-lining/coating.

“Hinges and hasps are to be attached to doors by welding, riveting, or bolting (nuts on inside of door). Hinges and hasps must be installed so that they cannot be removed when the doors are closed and locked.”

“Locks. Each door is to be equipped with (i) two mortise locks; (ii) two padlocks fastened in separate hasps and staples; (iii) a combination of a mortise lock and padlock: (iv) a mortise lock that requires two keys to open; or (v) a three-point lock.”

From Wikipedia: A mortise lock is one that requires a pocket–the mortise–to be cut into the door or piece of furniture into which the lock is to be fitted. In most parts of the world, mortise locks are generally found on older buildings constructed before the advent of bored cylindrical locks, but they have recently become more common in commercial and up market residential construction in the United States.


A Mortise Lock

“Padlocks must have at least five tumblers and a case-hardened shackle of at least 3/8-inch diameter. Padlocks must be protected with not less than 1/4-inch steel hoods constructed so as to prevent sawing or lever action on the locks, hasps, and staples.”

“Indoor magazines located in secure rooms that are locked as provided in this subparagraph may have each door locked with one steel padlock (which need not be protected by a steel hood) having at least five fumblers and a case-hardened shackle of at lease 3/8-inch diameter, if the door hinges and lock hasps are securely fastened to the magazine.”

So, if I have my indoor magazine in a shed, garage, or other building, which has a door, which locks with two mortise locks, the requirements for the lock on my magazine get drastically simplified.

“What the Hell??!!” I can just hear you saying right about now.

“How can I ever comply with all of this, only half of which I sorta understand?”

Well, it turns out it can be pretty simple, really.

An extremely simple indoor Type 4 magazine, which will satisfy these requirements, is a good-quality gun-safe, available at gun shops and sporting-goods stores. Make sure the locks meet the above requirements, and that the building is separated from your residence. Use epoxy appliance spray paint to cover any exposed metal on the inside of the magazine. Install some nice shelving in it. Drill some holes in the bottom and/or back of it to bolt it to the wall and/or floor to make it “theft-resistant.” And, there you have it, presto-chango, BATFE-compliant, Type 4, indoor storage.

Another option, which will come up if you search online for “lockable powder storage container,” is BATFE-compliant black powder storage boxes from sporting-goods outlets such as Cabela’s.

Here’s how you can convert a Ridgid Jobsite Storage Box, from Home Depot, into a legal Type 4 Indoor Storage magazine.

How to Make a Legal, Type 4 Indoor Magazine

This is just one approach to creating an Indoor Type 4 magazine, compliant with the BATFE’s requirement that “all persons who store explosive materials must store them in conformity with the provisions of Subpart K of the regulations” contained in the Orange Book. (Page 68, Question 72)

Note: Please keep in mind that what follows is my interpretation of the specifications and regulations in the orange book, combined with the advice I have gotten from others. I’m no lawyer or ATF inspector. These regulations are always up to personal interpretation by the individual ATF inspectors in your area. If you have any questions about the below-listed points, it is best to clarify them with your local ATF office.

Let’s review the BATFE’s specifications for “compliant” storage.

Type 4, Indoor magazine:

  • Is for storing “Low Explosives.” (no loose flash powder, no bulk salutes, no dynamite) (555.202 (b))
  • May not be located in a residence or dwelling. (555.210 (b) Indoor (1))
  • May only be used to store up to 50 pounds of explosives. (ditto)
  • Need not be any “minimum distance” from residences or road. (555.206 only pertains to “Outdoor Magazines”
  • Is to be fire-resistant and theft resistant. Need not be weather-resistant if the building in which it is stored provides protection from the weather. (555.210 (b) Indoor (1))
  • Must be constructed of masonry, metal-covered wood, fabricated metal, or a combination of these materials. The walls and floor are to be constructed of, or covered with, a non-sparking material. The door/s must be metal or solid wood covered with metal. (555.210 (b) Indoor (2))
  • Hinges and hasps are to be attached to doors by welding, riveting, or bolting (nuts on inside of door). Hinges and hasps must be installed so that they cannot be removed when the doors are closed and locked. (555.210 (b) Indoor (3))
  • Each door is to be equipped with (i) two mortise locks; (ii) two padlocks fastened in separate hasps and staples; (iii) a combination of a mortise lock and padlock; (iv) a mortise lock that requires two keys to open; or (v) a three-point lock. (555.210 (b) Indoor (4))
  • Padlocks must have at least five tumblers and casehardened shackle of at least 3/8-inch diameter. Padlocks must be protected with not less than 1/4-inch steel hoods constructed so as to prevent sawing or lever action on the locks, hasps, and staples. (ditto)
  • Indoor magazines located in secure rooms that are locked as provided in the above specifications may have each door locked with one steel padlock (which need not be protected by a steel hood) (same lock specs as above) if the door hinges and lock hasp are securely fastened to the magazine. (ditto)
  • There is to be no smoking, matches, open flames, or spark-producing devices within any room containing an indoor magazine. (555.212)
  • The workspace used to manufacture fireworks must be at least 200 feet away from the magazine. Many hobbyist fireworkers maintain a pyro-shed, or a “work area” as simple as a portable table and tent-shelter, separated from the residence and storage magazine by a minimum of 200 feet.
One Man’s Magazine and the Building It Is In.

I have a nice shed on my property. It is weatherproof. It is separated from my residence. I can create a “back room” in it, in which there are no spark-producing devices such as light switches, machines, or electrical outlets.

I can install two locks (a keyed entry lock and a deadbolt lock) on each of the doors leading back to the back room: the main entry door and the door to that room.

I can use the “front room” of the shed as a non-pyro workshop, as long as I keep the back room and magazine closed and secured during such operations.


Proposed Shed, Workshop, Back-Room, and Indoor Magazine

So, given all of the above BATFE requirements and specifications, what sort of Type 4 indoor magazine could I put in the back room of my shed?

My pyro-buddy, Gary Smith recently sent me a picture of such a magazine design that he’s been working on. It got my “wheels turning.”


Gary Smith’s Jobsite Storage Box Type 4 Indoor Magazine

This is simply a Ridgid Jobsite Storage Box, typically used on construction sites for overnight storage of valuable tools and materials. I bought one of these boxes at my local Home Depot.

This box is constructed per the BATFE’s specifications, is coated completely with heavy orange paint, making it non-sparking, and is fire-resistant and theft-resistant, especially when it is bolted to the floor or wall.

It has two recessed areas for the kind of theft/tamper-resistant locking the BATFE specifies.

For the locks, Home Depot sells No. 17 Padlock Master Locks. They have 1” thick shackles, measured across the “points” of the octagonal cross-section. The shackles are “boron-carbide,” and the locks are specified as having stainless-steel rust protection.

The locks are specified on the package as having 1-inch of clearance between the shackle and the body of the lock when the locks are locked. The Ridgid job box instructions specify a Master No 5 lock, which has between 7/8 and 1 inch of such clearance.

So, it looks like these locks meet both the BATFE and Ridgid specifications. I’ll keep the lock-package inside the magazine in case a BATFE field inspector ever wants to go over the lock specifications to verify that they do indeed meet his/her interpretation of the agency’s requirements.


No. 17 Master Lock

The locks are installed in the job box and held in place with u-bolts and nuts, which come with the box. When the door is closed, and the locks are locked, the body of the locks close around L-shaped bars, which project from the door. When the lock is unlocked, the lock-body slides out further in its little compartment and creates enough space for the L-Bar to slide into. (Trust me, it works just fine.)

When the door is closed and locked, the method of protecting the locks from tampering is as specified by the BATFE, including that the box is to be contained in a securely locked building.

Note: I whacked my projecting bars with a mini-sledge hammer to adjust them, so that the maximum length of the L part of the bars is engaged by the locks when they are locked.


Installation of Lock in Ridgid Jobsite Storage Box

I used a hand-held grinder, crowbar, sledgehammer, and wood block to remove the feet from the “bottom” of the box, which is now to be the “back” of the unit when it is installed as a magazine. Grinding the welds to cut them, and prying/pounding on them eventually got them off of the box.

Note: I have heard of serious incidents and accidents where someone using a grinding wheel or other grinder to sharpen tools or grind something else, has set off pyrotechnic compounds or fireworks which were stored nearby. Simply put, Do Not Grind Any Metal Near Pyrotechnics or Fireworks. Please!


Removing the Feet from a Ridgid Job Box

I then figured out which way I wanted the door to open in the new box configuration. That then determined which end of the box would be the new “bottom” of it.

I used construction adhesive to reattach the feet to the new bottom, and to glue the swinging handle to the box, so that it would stay out of the way during installation. Placing the feet on the new bottom of the box, will keep the box up far enough off the floor to allow the door to swing freely without hitting the floor while opening and closing.

I allowed the glue to set up and dry completely before going on to the next steps.


Gluing Feet onto New Bottom of the Box

I wanted some nice, wood shelves in the magazine, strong enough and far enough apart to support 5-gallon buckets of composition if needed.

I used some 3/4-inch-thick plywood, and some 1-inch X 1.5-inch wood scraps to create this shelving. All the wood is simply held in place with good-quality construction adhesive.

I ran a good bead of glue under the back edge of the shelves where they meet the back of the box to support them and prevent them from bowing under weight. Finally, I installed some wire-mesh “spice racks,” from the shelving department of Home Depot, on the inside of the door to provide some convenient storage for small items like one-pound cans of Goex black powder. These racks were installed so they fit between the wood shelves when the door is closed. The bolt-ends and nuts on the inside of the units were covered with clear caulking to make them non-sparking.


Installing Shelving in Type 4 Indoor Magazine.

To install the magazine in the back room of the shed, I drilled four 1/2-inch holes in the back of the magazine, and used 1/2-inch lag-bolts and washers to secure the box to the plywood wall.

The heads of the bolts and washers were also covered with clear caulk to ensure they are non-sparking.


Lag-Bolts and Washers Secure Magazine Inside the Shed

So, there you have it, one simple option for a legal magazine complying with the BATFE’s requirement for safe storage of explosives.

If an individual inspector ever disagrees with any of these design criteria, I’d be willing to explain the reasoning behind my “understandings,” and I’d be willing to be further educated on BATFE’s requirements and adjust my operation and magazine accordingly.

Happy fireworking, And stay safe and legal,

Ned

ngorski@skylighter.com

25 Comments For This Post I'd Love to Hear Yours!

  1. I have a ? for anyone who may know I just started in this kind of late in life (43) but I am kind of smart and responsible or so I think I have played around with mixing played is the wrong word but what can I say so ok here is my (?) I want to have my shop in a safe place with no spark possibilities and I see a lot of magazines made out of shipping containers ( um they are steel ) not so sure that’s a good Idea I was thinking of digging about 4 ft. down on a high spot and using old tires filled with dirt for the walls then putting a fiberglass panel roof on it would that work ? I know that is a lot of work but I think safety is more important than a few blisters …Thank you Martin

  2. Doug says:

    I just went to a BATF conference at the PGI. I think I can clarify a few points for hobbyists. It was given by an active BATF agent from PA.
    1. You absolutely do not need any permit or license to make fireworks of any kind on your own property for your own use (from the feds). However, you must burn up all the creations on that same day. As soon as you store them, any amount, you have broken the law unless you have an approved storage magazine. So, realistically, we all need at least a permit. And all of us must have a magazine; storage is their big deal.
    2. The 2 new classifications are simple: user PERMIT and manufacturing LICENSE. He made it very clear, with repeated questions, that making pyro for your own use, with no commercial application, you only need a PERMIT. But if you even sell a video online, get money from YouTube, or accept donations from people watching your pyro, etc, you have gone commercial and need a LICENSE. The difference is only monetary, a permit is $150 for 3 years and a license is $300 for 3 years. Otherwise, the same magazine requirements, etc.
    3. Most of us only need a type 4 magazine. Just say no to bulk salutes (a box of entirely salute shells) and no premixed flash. And if it is indoors the requirements are pretty easy to satisfy. Just do not keep more than 50# total pyro weight at any one time; this weight includes loose powder and any comp inside rockets, shells, fuse, etc..
    You are also allowed to have 2 or more indoor magazines, each in a different building, and each will have its own 50# limit.
    4. We will be asked if we are ‘familiar’ with state and local regulations and will need to sign that we are. Some agents may check with your local fire marshall to ensure you are compliant, although they are not required to do so.

    To me those were the pertinent requirements from the feds for hobbyist use and creation of fireworks, which would include rockets and aerial shells.
    Bottom line, we all need an approved magazine.

  3. Steve Harris says:

    I think it’s worth mentioning that when purchasing a padlock(s), make sure it is a 5 pin tumbler (most padlocks are 4 pin) to meet BATF requirements. If the package doesn’t say (the locks I just purchased didn’t), just count the number of “recesses” in the key.

  4. toster says:

    Any more info on their new designations? Also, without a shed, It seems to me that I can’t have the magazine in the attached garage, any suggestions there?

    • Which “new designations,” Toster?

      If the garage is attached to your house, no you can’t house the mag there. My own ATF-approved mag is in a workshop in my DEtached garage.

      Harry

      • Toster says:

        Up above, you state:

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        ned Reply:

        August 25th, 2010 at 10:47 AM

        One useful thing for us to get in the habit of, I think, is referring to the permits and licenses by their new designations. T’would probably help keep all this clear in everyone’s haid:

        This is the new ATF application for licenses and permits:

        http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5400-13.pdf

        You’ll see that there are no more “Types” of permits or licenses,,just User’s Permita and Manufacturing Licenses, with checkboxes to indicate to the ATF what sort of activity you plan on participating in.

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        I guess, is it just a new designations, User’s Permits and Manufacturing Licenses. So, under the Manufacturing Licenses are there still types? I guess I am confused.

        Also, for us without sheds, nor a ton of room (city dwellers) do you have suggestions for a Mag and getting legal? Other than going to a pyro club build?

  5. James Luzier says:

    Would a gun safe work as a type 4 magazine unit?
    Thanks,
    Ben

    • HEGilliam says:

      yes, many folks do use gun safes as Indoor Type 4 magazines, and they are compliant with the Orange book as long as the safe locking mechanism meets one of the 5 locking specifications, such as having a three-point lock.

  6. Jon says:

    Heh, yea I saw that on the news also about the guy in WI that was arrested. They really make him sound bad in that article, everything he had was purely for use in our hobby and there was NO intention of making any “bombs”.

    This really sucks that we’re getting such a bad reputation in WI – this is a great state and people love fireworks but lately it just seems like there is a constant stream of bad publicity surrounding the hobby! People being arrested for possession of fireworks/chem, a bp flash fire turns into “an explosion at an explosives manufacturing company”, local news stations make it sound like the flooding at PGI this year has poisoned our water and destroyed the wildlife. Maybe it’s me but it just seems like there is something to do with fireworks on the news almost every other week or so now, especially in WI.

    I have a few questions if anyone can answer them…

    First, I have been told that I can easily jump on to someone else’s type 20 with another type (54?) assuming they have the proper distances and mag. Is this true, which license do I apply for and what is involved?

    Second, is there anyone in WI that either already has a mag and type 20 that they would share / rent, or is there anyone that is interested in building one or has the property that would consider splitting the cost of the land/mag/type 20?

    Finally, I’m a little confused about some of these laws. You have stated that NO license is required for a hobbyist that will manufacture and use right away (as long as they are not selling, transporting, etc) correct? Or am I misreading something?

    I only ask because of that man in WI that was arrested for possession of explosives. This has me wondering now because they stated he had 8 explosive devices (probably shells) and several hundred pounds of chemicals. After hearing that it makes me a bit worried – HYPOTHETICALLY speaking…

    Lets say I am just starting out in the hobby and had purchased or wanted to purchase some chemicals to make some stars. Just a little KNO3, Charcoal, Ti, Al for example ;) is this legal as long as they aren’t mixed?? That has been my understanding for years that it was legal to possess any of these chem’s (a lot of people have told me it is even legal to mix them) as long as I do not put the finished stars (or other inserts) into the actual delivery device (such as a shell, rocket, mine, etc)…

    Can anyone clarify this for me? I’m a little spooked now after hearing about that guy that was just arrested! I’m also wondering what the BATFE considers 50lbs of “explosive material”. Do they consider all chemicals explosive material? Or only mixed chemicals? For example, can you possess 50lbs of BP and another 100lbs of unmixed KNO3, charcoal, and sulfer at the same time?

    Sorry for all the questions… None of the local authorities have been able to answer anything pertaining to pyrotechnics, they’re useless until it comes time to arrest people for possession or firing!

    Thanks,
    Jon

    • HEGilliam says:

      Jon,
      Good questions, but before I dive into the answers, here’s one for you: Why don’t you go for your own Type 20, rather than a 54?

      Harry

      • ned says:

        One useful thing for us to get in the habit of, I think, is referring to the permits and licenses by their new designations.. T’would probably help keep all this clear in everyone’s haid:

        This is the new ATF application for licenses and permits:

        http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5400-13.pdf

        You’ll see that there are no more “Types” of permits or licenses,,just User’s Permita and Manufacturing Licenses, with checkboxes to indicate to the ATF what sort of activity you plan on participating in.

        So, if you can have dedicated storage of your own, and a workspace of your own, a Manufacturing License is definitely the way to go. If you can only get borrowed, contingency storage, then a User’s Permit would be the place to start on this ‘gettin legal’ process.
        ned

      • Jon says:

        I’d love to get my own type 20 and have considered it for several years now. I haven’t taken the dive quite yet for several reasons. Most importantly I currently don’t own any land, nor do I have the cash flow at the time to purchase any. I live in a somewhat populated area and it just is not an appropriate place.

        I have looked at friends and family’s property but they do not like the idea of storing any type of explosive or flammable material on their own property – this is out of the question at this time…

        Another reason is that while I have been a pyrotechnician for a number of years (worked for display companies, PGI, etc) I am very new to making my own display items. In fact, this is the first time I have purchased chemicals and planned on making my own stars and/or display items. However, I want to be 100% certain I am doing it legally before I do anything!!

        I intended to start off with some very simple formulas, all BP based with simple metal additions (willows, gold glitter, zinc, etc). I want to get a feel for what I’m doing in small quantities before I go nuts…

        I hope that gives you a better understanding of where I’m coming from. I am just extremely worried about the legalities of the chemicals I own, what they consider “explosive material” and whether or not I can even start making stars or not, let alone shells, mines, etc!

        Thank you both for all your hard work!

        • Scott says:

          Jon, looks like you are doing the right thing by doing homework first. I am a new “Type 20″ holder and am also trying to figure things out before diving in. For you, find contingency storage. Search for fireworks companies in your area and talk to the owner. You will need storage anyway, either your own or a contingency storage letter, for your BATF application.

          I have same type questions as you regarding storage of unmixed chemicals. My contingency storage guy did not know if I was required to store unmixed chemicals at his place, so I called the ATF. My ATF rep really did not know the answer, so we went to the Orange Book. The only thing we found was on page 70, paragraph 92 “At the end of a day’s manufacturing operations, all dry explosive powders and mixtures and partially assembled and finished display fireworks must be removed from fireworks process buildings and stored in a magazine….”. We decided that I would store all unmixed (and mixed) in the magazine. However, I honestly did not see anything specifically stating “all unmixed fireworks chemicals must be stored in a magazine”.

          Any help on this question is greatly appreciated.

          • ned says:

            Scott, unmixed chems are not considered to be explosives by the ATF, so they do not concern themselves with their storage, etc.

            This is the current list of explosive materials that are covered by ATF:

            http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/pdf/2010-45.pdf

            ned

            • Scott says:

              Thank you. The list does contain “Pyrotechnic compositions” which would indicate “mixed” chemicals. So things like potassium perchlorate and other chems I’m looking at do not need to be in a magazine until I mix them. Thank you very much for the clarification!

  7. Nice info. Seems like a lot of work. There was a gentleman in Wisconsin that just got busted with home-made fireworks chemicals, they thought he was making bombs but actually was just making his own fireworks. He could’ve used one of these storage containers. Story here
    http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=12016664

  8. jonathan says:

    What if you only plan on using the magazine for storage of fireworks for a users license will you still be able to use this type of magazine?

    • ned says:

      Jonathan, when manufacturing fireworks for one’s one use, and not transporting them, no license or permit is required, but the storage of those fireworks must be in compliance with the BATFE’s specifications, as spelled out in the Orange Book.
      But, when one gets a User’s Permit, one must have storage that not only is in compliance those specifications, that storage must be inspected by the BATFE.
      If the storage that is described in this article is set up in accordance with the BATFE’s specifications, and the amount of stored pyrotechnic material does not exceed 50 pounds, then it seems that the BATFE would accept it for storage in connections with a User’s Permit. But, it’d be best to verify that with your local BATFE office, which is the authority you’ll be dealing with concerning your Permit.
      (This is, of course, only one Layman’s perspective…the BATFE will have the final word.)
      ned

  9. Harry says:

    I found out from Doug Mawhorr, Firefox’s attorney, that the judge finally ruled that Firefox would be allowed to accept ANY explosives manufacturing license for purchases. This was new news to me, because I had understood the original injunction speficied Type 20. I will see if it is possible for us to amend Skylighter’s policy as soon as possible. Stay tuned.

  10. ned says:

    Yeah, Pete,
    I eagerly await the simplification of the ‘manufacturing license’ landscape.
    Then the CPSC can’t require that one have a Type 20 MFG of High Explosives to purchase certain types/quantities of chems/supplies. It never made sense that the Type 50 wasn’t good enough.

    I’m assuming by the ‘table of distances’ for hobbyist manufacture, you are referring to the 200′ minimum distance from a ‘workstation’ to a residence or road.
    If there is indoor Type 4 storage, the current interpretation has been that there is no minimum distance requirement, just that it be in a ‘separate structure’..
    But according to the wording in the most recent explosives industry newsletter, that may be up for re-interpretation in the future.

    Dave, legally, my ‘build area’ has to be 200′ from the magazine, so the workshop is a ‘non-pyro’ one.

    And, good luck, Arvin and Adam..

    Best,
    ned

  11. Arvin says:

    Thanks for clearing the smoke around “BATFE Compliant Storage” I’m sure alot of us will be hitting the local salvage/scrap yards for some sort of a job box.. Hmmm wonder if the old pickup trucks tool box would work ?

  12. Adam says:

    Anyone want to help make fireworks legal in DE? It is no easy task !!!

  13. Dave Morris says:

    The “pyro Shed” in your design calls the front room “a non-pyro workshop” are you going to use this area for general “shed” activities or will this be the “build area”.

    Thanks

  14. Pete Cranwell says:

    The ATF just eliminated the type of explosive for licensing purposes. For manufacturing, there will only be an Explosive Manufacturing license with no designation of High Explosive, Low Explosive, Fireworks etc.. I would think the suppliers would be able to sell any chem to anyone with a manufacturing license. This was put in the June 2009, Industry Newsletter.

    Another point . You need to comply with the table of distances for any manufacturing. (with or without a license).

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